Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1970-12-31
- Live concert
- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
Disc 1 Tracks 1-6: FMS (KSAN)>??>Cass>DAT>CDR
Disc 1 Tracks 7-9: SBD MR>Cass>DAT>CDR (Pre-FM GDH)
Disc 2 Tracks 1-2: FMS (KSAN)>??>Cass>DAT>CDR
Disc 2 Tracks 3-4: SBD MR>??>Cass>DAT>CDR
*Source for the KSAN stuff is questionable. It might be the audience taper that is heard being busted for at least the first part of disc 1. There is little audience noise throughout, so, it is likely that the KSAN source is correct, although the degradation of the sound is enough to make one think that it could be an audience.
** Taper being busted by band was moved by Gans to before Sugar Magnolia, but, it belongs before China Cat (both are present).
- 2004-05-30 20:01:26
- [SBD MR > Cass > DAT > CDR] + [FMS (KSAN) > ?? > Cass > DAT > CDR]
- San Francisco, CA
- Soundboard + FM
- Winterland Arena
Subject: hidden track ?
and it does seem to be unrelated or another source.
Subject: hidden track
Subject: 1st Winterland NYE party (that we have)
An average '70 show, though not bad for an NYE party. There are balloons popping, so actually the entire show takes place in '71. Three songs have been officially released. It's better than the El Monte shows a few days earlier, but the sources tend to have very erratic pitch problems. It was mixed in quadrophonic for quadcast (you turned on two radio stations at once for the full sound). There was a TV broadcast on KQED through "I Know You Rider" and the first four songs were FM-stereo simulcast on KSAN. The billing was: GD; Hot Tuna; NRPS; Stoneground; "Musician's Jam", so there was just one set from the boys.
Truckin' is played great but out of tune. Monkey is great and under 2min! Cold Rain & Snow sounds like a few players couldn't hear themselves or each other. Easy Wind is not the tightest (there's a cut on the FM source). Things are a bit rough until the Cryptical and then the playing gets good. There are a couple seconds missing from the end of The Other One on the main source. Black Peter is good - funny to hear a bootleg backlash from half the band, given the policy a decade later. Sugar Magnolia is in its simplest arrangement. Some sources move the "periscope patter" around but it should be between Sugar Mag and China Cat. On this source the 2nd iteration is longer, and with a Good Lovin' tease; CCS starts@1:43. Even with poor qual/balance/pitch you can tell the playing is good. I Know You Rider has the crazed & screaming girl that's been mentioned, though the recording is poor - mostly Phil and Bobby, and pitched fast by more than one key. The rest is below average for '70 but the boots don't represent the craziness that was going on.
Overall = C
Monkey & the Engineer - played well
Cryptical Envelopment>Drums>The Other One - best section
SOURCES: The fm.7283 source compiles the known fragments, except check:
*kaslow-todd.berger.101530 for Truckin' and Cold Rain & Snow.
*hollister-ayers.106.shnf for The Other One>Black Peter
*Monkey & the Engineer and Good Lovin' are on Download Series: Family Dog
*Easy Wind is on Closing of Winterland Bonus
*Big Railroad is @4:52 on Easy Wind and runs 5% fast, as do China Cat>Rider.
*Cumberland is a whopping, helium, 6% fast.
*Uncle John's runs 2% too fast overall but there's a slow wow and the pitch wavers.
@ cryptical70 - the cut is just on this source
Subject: it was a very good year
Subject: Cut after "The Other One"
Subject: No problems here
BUT! There's a different source that has the 1st 4 tracks.
SO! Put em together and you have a great sounding set of songs. (with the exception of cumberland and china/rider) but still a complete show.
Throw in the after show (Hot Tuna ft. Bob Weir) and you got yourself 2 great CD's of NY eve debauchery!
Subject: Some tracks sound much better than others...hmmm
China Cat/IKYR is poor quality audience sounding.
Good Lovin sounds like it's from the soundboard, stereo. Uncle John's Band is soundboard stereo excellent quality. Excellent quality here does come with tape hiss, and some blemishes but overall stereo, soundboard. I downloaded this show and recommend you do too, and be sure to click the Deadlists Projects hyper link and click the Poster hyper link and download the picture too. Man I love the Archives, Thanks for the love.
Subject: gd70-12-31 New Years
Subject: Bad Sound
Subject: Good Lovin!!!
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